From greenlee@fnal.gov Mon Apr 12 14:31:15 2004 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 19:37:18 -0500 From: Herbert Greenlee To: d0-conveners@fnal.gov Cc: D0 Data Format Working Group Subject: Common root-based data format. Hello Conveners, As you know, the D0 Data Format Working Group has been formed to review analysis data formats (tuples/trees) currently being used in D0, and to propose and develop a common root-based format. We are now in the information gathering stage. We are interested in your opinions. We are asking you, the physics group conveners, to assist our group in its efforts by answering the following questions. As we currently envision it, a common root format would consist of a centrally maintained set of tools (framework packages and executables) for producing root files from thumbnails. We also envision having a centrally produced and managed set of root files produced from Common Sample Group thumbnails, stored in sam and possibly pinned on disk. Where and by whom such common root files would be produced is net yet determined. The common root files should incorporate thumbnail fixes and certified object corrections (d0correct). Common root files would be offered to the physics groups as an alternative format to thumbnails for doing analysis. Thank you for giving this matter your thoughtful attention. Please send replies to d0dfwg@fnal.gov. Here are the questions. 1. What analysis data formats and analysis tools are members of your group currently using? 2. What analysis data formats or analysis tools does your group recommend to its members? 3. Do you encourage or discourage people to use tmb_tree? Why or why not? 4. How does your physics group support the efforts of analyzers? That is, does your group provide centrally managed data sets, tuples/trees, or analysis tools? 5. Would your group benefit from the availability of common, possibly centrally produced root trees? What requirements would a common root format have to fulfill for your group to benefit? 6. If tmb_tree were chosen as the basis for a common format, what changes would be required to make it attractive to your group? 7. Does your group develop algorithms in root? Should algorithm development in root be encouraged? What is the best way to allow the entire collaboration to benefit from algorithms developed in root? 8. Is there any other information that you would like to bring to the attention of the Data Format Working Group? Regards, The D0 Data Format Working Group