Software Tools Meeting Minutes
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                       (26 January 1996)

Present:  Al Jonchkeere, Laura Paterno, Serban Protopopescu, Lee Lueking, 
          Qizhong Li-Demarteau, Stan Krzywdzinski, Herb Greenlee

Scribe:   Qizhong Li-Demarteau


Laura, who is coordinating the task for compiler/debugger, suggested that
we discuss about the compiler/debugger requirements first before choosing
any specific compiler/debugger.

Discussions:

    - The C++ compiler should be able to handle the templates
    - Currently the C++ compilers differ on different platforms
    - Is there a C++ standard?
    - we should discuss it with C++ experienced people, like Dart etc
    - Fortran 90 has to compile (VAX) Fortran 77
    - Alan pointed out that CERN has CFORTRAN, which uses C preprocessor
      to preprocess FORTRAN code
    - ...

Then we discussed on the code management.

Herb suggested that we should have separated system for run I and run II.
Serban agrees that we should have a clear break for run I and run II code and
should have two groups people to manage them.

Herb pointed out that the software tool group should have the recommendation
out now, because a new group is formed for run II software tools. 

Alan pointed out that CVS does not has much better features than CMS, the main
problem is not manage the source code in CVS or CMS, the main problem is how
to distribute them. The system we have now works fine. To change to a new 
system will need a lot of manpower, for which it seems not really possible.

(Qizhong's note: According to what Paul Grannis and Waytt told me, the new
groups for run II software do not conflict with our software tool group's 
work. In D0NEWS, general folder #4065, "Run II Software Organization"
it clearly indicated that "The Software Tools group will continue to work 
toward the recommendations remaining in its charge:
         Compilers/Debuggers
         Code Mananagement
         Databases
         GUI building/editing")